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Ben Carson’s Denial of Reality - The New York Times

When I was growing up in Detroit, my high school teachers acclaimed Ben Carson as a role model, a man whose success my black classmates and I should strive to emulate. “Gifted Hands,” his 1996 best-selling book, was required reading for students at Northwestern High School who, like myself, wanted to “be somebody.”

But for all of the praise Mr. Carson has garnered for his professional achievements as a brain surgeon, his greatest selling point among conservatives is his refusal to challenge institutional racism.

Like Mr. Carson, I was raised by a single black woman in Detroit who stressed the need for hard work and education. But that is where our similarities end. For Mr. Carson, our hometown is useful only for street cred: It is necessary personal background to prove that it’s possible to make it out of poverty and succeed through the power of one’s own will. But to me, the lesson of Detroit is that a black middle class can rise only by fighting racist policies intended to keep affordable housing and education off limits to minorities.

As Mr. Carson testified this week at Senate hearings on his selection by President-elect Donald Trump to be secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development — an agency with the task of expanding access to stable and affordable housing — I thought about how that history seems to have made no impression on him.

The middle class is never built from nothing. American prosperity grew after World War II because federal subsidies made it cheaper for families to own homes and for veterans to go to college.

Black Americans, however, were specifically denied mortgages and many benefits of the G.I. Bill, among other opportunities that led to upward mobility. That black families still managed to thrive despite the decades of ghettoization that resulted from this exclusion — not to mention from segregation, violent discrimination and slavery — is a miracle.

But progress didn’t come out of nowhere.

The auto industry slowly integrated, and Detroit’s black middle class began to grow in the 1950s and ’60s. But it wasn’t until Coleman A. Young became Detroit’s first black mayor in 1973 and forced the Detroit police force and other city departments to diversify that black people could finally pursue careers that white power brokers had long preserved for themselves. At one point, Detroit was home to the nation’s “most affluent African-American population with the largest percentage of black homeowners and the highest comparative wages,” according to David Goldberg of Wayne State University.

The decline of the auto industry and the 2008 housing crash hollowed out these hard-won achievements. After the financial crisis, Detroit had one of the highest foreclosure rates in the nation. Across the country, subprime loans had been disproportionately peddled to black and Latino families — even the wealthy ones — specifically because banks had long ignored them.

Once again, housing became neither stable nor affordable for many black families, who were disproportionately affected by terrible government policy — or in this case, the lack thereof.

Mr. Carson said nothing about this — or anything about the legacy of discrimination in housing — during his Senate confirmation hearings. As he has consistently made clear, he believes it is time for Americans to “move beyond” race.

How is this the man to lead an agency responsible for rooting out racial discrimination in housing?

But in another sense, Mr. Carson is a perfect pick for a president-elect who has been sued for housing discrimination himself. He can serve as the black face of “pull yourself up by your bootstraps,” while absolving white conservatives of the need to acknowledge that black people were rarely allowed to pull themselves up in the first place.

I know what it is like to be on public assistance. My grandmother hated it and got us off it as soon as she could. But life was tough. She moved from Greenwood, S.C., to a segregated Detroit where she and her children were forced to live in separate and unequal housing, only to be confronted with extreme violence if they didn’t stay in their place.

There is a body of research that shows that racist urban policy decided my grandmother’s fate — not her own free will. That she was able to raise me to work hard and do my best despite that racist policy doesn’t give me, or any black person, the license to ignore the history of policies that were intended to keep us poor and keep us out of the white professional circles that we may nonetheless navigate as adults.

Mr. Carson seems to have internalized something else: that to curry the favor of white conservatives who prize his black skin, he must dissociate himself from black realities.
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Jan 14 17 8:18 AM

How is this the man to lead an agency responsible for rooting out racial discrimination in housing?
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“A good CEO doesn’t necessarily know everything about the business … but he knows how to pick those people, and use them,” he said.

Carson indicated he was already taking the advice. He said he planned to go on a listening tour to hear from local housing officials and residents.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-carson-hud-20170112-story.html


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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

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Jan 14 17 9:06 AM

Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.

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Jan 14 17 9:41 AM

jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.
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I just can't get over Carson's vagueness and what appears to be total confusion about the subject being discussed.  It's like his face is saying: What are you talking about"  when he's being addressed.  His mind jumps the track in between sentences.  

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Jan 14 17 12:27 PM

cannedheat7777 wrote:
jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.
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I just can't get over Carson's vagueness and what appears to be total confusion about the subject being discussed.  It's like his face is saying: What are you talking about"  when he's being addressed.  His mind jumps the track in between sentences.  

That's because he has never considered himself  "one of those people".
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Jan 14 17 3:32 PM

cannedheat7777 wrote:
jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I just can't get over Carson's vagueness and what appears to be total confusion about the subject being discussed.  It's like his face is saying: What are you talking about"  when he's being addressed.  His mind jumps the track in between sentences.  



I was a regional manager for multiple affordable housing complexes for 8 years and would still be doing that work if not for a neurological disorder that grounded me.  I loved the work because it took me off the social work grind once I'd burned out of that field.  Ben Carson knows nothing about HUD.  He also doesn't know that outside HUD there is the USDA Rural Housing program as well, which is also about subsidized housing.  I wouldn't even try to teach him any of this.  It would take at least two years to bring him to any point of competency, with tons of assistance.  You're right about how he appears sometimes when he speaks.  At his age it is not improbable that he's experiencing symptoms of what most would call short term memory challenges.  I noted that in his demeanor during any of his debate appearance.   Of course I can't diagnose, but Ben Carson is not the guy we need to oversee affordable housing.

Surgeons are surgeons.   They are not investors, contractors, federal agency directors, landlords, property managers, state housing inspectors, etc.  I've got my time in with a neurosurgeon up here, and he's not the dude I'd go to for answers about my prior employment.  I wouldn't ask him to identify the fungus that killed two of my houseplants.  These people who think that just because a person is proficient in one profession that he/she can do anything and everything else sort of insult the people who have spent years perfecting their craft in other fields and other vocations.  

But who cares!  Hire a neurosurgeon to learn all about affordable housing in all 50 states, in oh, 3 or 4 weeks, not to mention manage all those people in a federal agency!  While we're at it, why don't all the SCOTUS judges recruit a few dentists to clerk for them?  I'm sure that would work out.

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Jan 14 17 5:25 PM

pandy wrote:
cannedheat7777 wrote:
jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I just can't get over Carson's vagueness and what appears to be total confusion about the subject being discussed.  It's like his face is saying: What are you talking about"  when he's being addressed.  His mind jumps the track in between sentences.  



I was a regional manager for multiple affordable housing complexes for 8 years and would still be doing that work if not for a neurological disorder that grounded me.  I loved the work because it took me off the social work grind once I'd burned out of that field.  Ben Carson knows nothing about HUD.  He also doesn't know that outside HUD there is the USDA Rural Housing program as well, which is also about subsidized housing.  I wouldn't even try to teach him any of this.  It would take at least two years to bring him to any point of competency, with tons of assistance.  You're right about how he appears sometimes when he speaks.  At his age it is not improbable that he's experiencing symptoms of what most would call short term memory challenges.  I noted that in his demeanor during any of his debate appearance.   Of course I can't diagnose, but Ben Carson is not the guy we need to oversee affordable housing.

Surgeons are surgeons.   They are not investors, contractors, federal agency directors, landlords, property managers, state housing inspectors, etc.  I've got my time in with a neurosurgeon up here, and he's not the dude I'd go to for answers about my prior employment.  I wouldn't ask him to identify the fungus that killed two of my houseplants.  These people who think that just because a person is proficient in one profession that he/she can do anything and everything else sort of insult the people who have spent years perfecting their craft in other fields and other vocations.  

But who cares!  Hire a neurosurgeon to learn all about affordable housing in all 50 states, in oh, 3 or 4 weeks, not to mention manage all those people in a federal agency!  While we're at it, why don't all the SCOTUS judges recruit a few dentists to clerk for them?  I'm sure that would work out.
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Ben Carson is a legend in his own mind. He's lied about his past. Doesn't anyone wonder why this brilliant surgeon just walked away from this brilliant medical career? Wouldn't you have thought another medical center or medical school would have scooped him up in an instant. Or he'd be doing teaching seminars and continuing education programs.

No, for some reason, he walked away from all that. To do politics. And we see him standing there, eyes closed, confused, overwhelmed saying some really dumb stuff, making stuff up, getting confused. There may be a good reason.

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Jan 16 17 12:50 PM

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pandy wrote:
cannedheat7777 wrote:jryan80033 wrote:Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.


He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I just can't get over Carson's vagueness and what appears to be total confusion about the subject being discussed.  It's like his face is saying: What are you talking about"  when he's being addressed.  His mind jumps the track in between sentences.  


 


I was a regional manager for multiple affordable housing complexes for 8 years and would still be doing that work if not for a neurological disorder that grounded me.  I loved the work because it took me off the social work grind once I'd burned out of that field.  Ben Carson knows nothing about HUD.  He also doesn't know that outside HUD there is the USDA Rural Housing program as well, which is also about subsidized housing.  I wouldn't even try to teach him any of this.  It would take at least two years to bring him to any point of competency, with tons of assistance.  You're right about how he appears sometimes when he speaks.  At his age it is not improbable that he's experiencing symptoms of what most would call short term memory challenges.  I noted that in his demeanor during any of his debate appearance.   Of course I can't diagnose, but Ben Carson is not the guy we need to oversee affordable housing.


Surgeons are surgeons.   They are not investors, contractors, federal agency directors, landlords, property managers, state housing inspectors, etc.  I've got my time in with a neurosurgeon up here, and he's not the dude I'd go to for answers about my prior employment.  I wouldn't ask him to identify the fungus that killed two of my houseplants.  These people who think that just because a person is proficient in one profession that he/she can do anything and everything else sort of insult the people who have spent years perfecting their craft in other fields and other vocations.  


But who cares!  Hire a neurosurgeon to learn all about affordable housing in all 50 states, in oh, 3 or 4 weeks, not to mention manage all those people in a federal agency!  While we're at it, why don't all the SCOTUS judges recruit a few dentists to clerk for them?  I'm sure that would work out.
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Ben Carson is a legend in his own mind. He's lied about his past. Doesn't anyone wonder why this brilliant surgeon just walked away from this brilliant medical career? Wouldn't you have thought another medical center or medical school would have scooped him up in an instant. Or he'd be doing teaching seminars and continuing education programs.

No, for some reason, he walked away from all that. To do politics. And we see him standing there, eyes closed, confused, overwhelmed saying some really dumb stuff, making stuff up, getting confused. There may be a good reason.

 
He let himself be corrupted by Trump!

 

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Jan 16 17 9:02 PM

jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.

Putting in Carson charge of HUD is like saying "My roof is leaking so I hired a tuna fishermen to fix it"

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Jan 16 17 9:36 PM

tincansalt wrote:

jryan80033 wrote:
Ben Carson is a figment of Ben Carson's imagination. He left Detroit in the late 60's and never looked back. He has about the same knowledge level of urban development that my St. Bernard has. And the fact that he wouldn't commit to not lining the pockets of Donald Trump speaks volumes about his ethics.

He's the poster child for Trump's sham administration.

Putting in Carson charge of HUD is like saying "My roof is leaking so I hired a tuna fishermen to fix it"

 
Trump's is the worst cabinet in history!

 

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