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Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.

His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  
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pandy wrote:
Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.


His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  

Spot on.

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Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.

His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think you are right on the bull's eye.  He's too stupid to know what he's signing but as long as there is a pen, an audience and a camera there, he'll sign anything including his own death warrant.  

I believe also that Trump's kids wanted him out of the Trump businesses and pushed him to run for POTUS in hope that he would have to sign over all control to them before there's nothing left for them to inherit or run.  Those tax returns would say a lot about how badly the Trump empire is faring these days which is why we won't be seeing them unless someone leaks them.  

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I believe they are just telling him what to sign.

I agree, and it really only dawned on me in the last couple days.     

Democrats need to do battle from the ground up, not the top down.   Beat back the people who are using Trump.   

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pandy wrote:
bkey wrote:
I believe they are just telling him what to sign. 

I agree, and it really only dawned on me in the last couple days.     

Democrats need to do battle from the ground up, not the top down.   Beat back the people who are using Trump.   


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First and foremost, get it out in the open that he doesn't have a clue what he is doing or how they are using him.  He is doing way too much of this, and other detriments things to Americans.



* #TrumpsAmerica

* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is of the 2009 inauguration of 44th President Barack Obama, and is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.


  

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Jan 25 17 7:46 PM

bkey wrote:
pandy wrote:
bkey wrote:
I believe they are just telling him what to sign. 

I agree, and it really only dawned on me in the last couple days.     

Democrats need to do battle from the ground up, not the top down.   Beat back the people who are using Trump.   


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First and foremost, get it out in the open that he doesn't have a clue what he is doing or how they are using him.  He is doing way too much of this, and other detriments things to Americans.



* #TrumpsAmerica

* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is of the 2009 inauguration of 44th President Barack Obama, and is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.


  

Very glad to see someone keeping tabs via this list, and next...

We all know now that Trump's supporters applaud ALL of those items on the list.   Are overjoyed by them.  

What do Democrats do next?   

I risk offending the entire Democratic Party and all left-wing groups by saying it again and again -- the rash of articles on websites and news sites revealing what Trump's new administration is doing so badly and so wrong are not working, because we read them and Trump's supporters will never read them.  

Those same kinds of articles did nothing -- not one thing -- to halt the juggernaut of his campaign.  I'm sort of a fan of not doing something that does not work.   However, I also don't know what WILL work at this point. 

For now, nothing by way of real news will be consumed by Trump voters.   That's a terrible turn in the road.   We are seeing a fascist government form quickly, and feel powerless to do anything to stop it -- mainly because an awful lot of conservatives seem to want that kind of government.

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pandy wrote:
Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.

His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  
On the money.
Any objective bio on Trump notes that he doesn't like to read  and he has no attention span for listening to anything that isn't about himself.
He's signing papers without knowing or caring what they mean.

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cannedheat7777 wrote:
pandy wrote:
Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.

His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think you are right on the bull's eye.  He's too stupid to know what he's signing but as long as there is a pen, an audience and a camera there, he'll sign anything including his own death warrant.  

I believe also that Trump's kids wanted him out of the Trump businesses and pushed him to run for POTUS in hope that he would have to sign over all control to them before there's nothing left for them to inherit or run.  Those tax returns would say a lot about how badly the Trump empire is faring these days which is why we won't be seeing them unless someone leaks them.  


*light bulb over my head*

It had never occurred to me that Trump's kids were looking at a dying empire and saw Daddy in the Oval Office as a way to salvage it.   That might also explain Ivanka and her husband's role in D.C. -- the brothers run the business, and she and Jared keep the old man sitting upright and not drooling.   Melania would not be able to do that.  

Oy!

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I think Trump is unfit for office because he is mentally ill. His family may be taking advantage of the situation, but it seems like a really radical way to snatch the business.

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Yep he is nuts.  IMO


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Jan 25 17 8:08 PM

pandy wrote:
bkey wrote:
pandy wrote:
bkey wrote:
I believe they are just telling him what to sign. 

I agree, and it really only dawned on me in the last couple days.     

Democrats need to do battle from the ground up, not the top down.   Beat back the people who are using Trump.   


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First and foremost, get it out in the open that he doesn't have a clue what he is doing or how they are using him.  He is doing way too much of this, and other detriments things to Americans.



* #TrumpsAmerica

* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is of the 2009 inauguration of 44th President Barack Obama, and is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.


  

Very glad to see someone keeping tabs via this list, and next...

We all know now that Trump's supporters applaud ALL of those items on the list.   Are overjoyed by them.  

What do Democrats do next?   

I risk offending the entire Democratic Party and all left-wing groups by saying it again and again -- the rash of articles on websites and news sites revealing what Trump's new administration is doing so badly and so wrong are not working, because we read them and Trump's supporters will never read them.  

Those same kinds of articles did nothing -- not one thing -- to halt the juggernaut of his campaign.  I'm sort of a fan of not doing something that does not work.   However, I also don't know what WILL work at this point. 

For now, nothing by way of real news will be consumed by Trump voters.   That's a terrible turn in the road.   We are seeing a fascist government form quickly, and feel powerless to do anything to stop it -- mainly because an awful lot of conservatives seem to want that kind of government.


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Exactly. We've been watching it develop the past decade or so. Police and the military were celebrated. Men who advocated for social issues were weak  girly men, women were dykes. They still fall back on the 'hippies'. Education was not valued nor supported. War is celebrated, defense spending has no limits. Nationalism is pushed, weaker entities are deemed enemies. And we have worked very hard to isolate Muslims and brand them an enemy that must be destroyed. 

And now we have come to the point where we have a maniac at the helm.

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Yea, right(pun)!

How does one know when the Snowflake Minority President is lying?  His mouth is moving.
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Yea, right(pun)!

How does one know when the Snowflake Minority President is lying?  His mouth is moving.
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Most of them lie! Some just a bit! Few of them don't! But this creep lies about every damn thing! I'd say about 75% of the chit that comes out of this eldritch hole is lies & lots of them!

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Does anyone else suspect that Mr. Trump does not understand much of what is explained to him by way of bills, pending legislation, agency operations, etc., and that the Republican controlled Congress is simply taking advantage of his lack of intellect by sliding all this shit in front of him to sign?   This explains why none of them opposed his nomination or election other than a few stray words.  

I know people like him in real time.  They're embarrassed that they don't understand something, terrified someone will figure that out, and act out with bravado to hide that.   They're the people who get ripped off all the time.

His business history reflects some of that behavior.   I really don't know of any bank that would sign on to any loans that did not have terms highly favorable to them, less so to the borrower.  

>>>>>>>>>>>

Your assessment was spot on, that was clear today when we learned that Trump didn't know that Steve Bannon needs Senate approval before he sits in with the National Security Council.  

I don't know who is writing these "executive orders" for Trump or if Trump himself is writing them but I doubt there's even one of them that will stand up on its own legally without revision.  

We should have paid closer attention when Trump said he was writing his own inauguration speech. 

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The question is not whether Trump knows what he's doing but if what he is doing is illegal is anyone making a case of it before the court? We can grouse and deny but it won't get 'fixed' unless he's charged and a court decides. imo mym

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The question is not whether Trump knows what he's doing but if what he is doing is illegal is anyone making a case of it before the court? We can grouse and deny but it won't get 'fixed' unless he's charged and a court decides. imo mym

So far he's shown he'll fire anyone in the JD who does her/his job and examines any of his EOs to determine if they comply with existing law (and most definitely fire them if they determine that his policies and new regulations are unconstitutional, or violate existing treaties, etc).  Bannon apparently is trying to run the show, and Bannon despises the rule of law and sees himself as the luckiest man in the world right now.   Legal challenges will have to, each and every time, come from outside government, or from states or cities.  

I know there are a lot of rumblings in Albany right now concerning fending off any craziness that the new feds in Washington attempt to impose on us up here. 

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pandy wrote:
samemym wrote:
The question is not whether Trump knows what he's doing but if what he is doing is illegal is anyone making a case of it before the court? We can grouse and deny but it won't get 'fixed' unless he's charged and a court decides. imo mym

So far he's shown he'll fire anyone in the JD who does her/his job and examines any of his EOs to determine if they comply with existing law (and most definitely fire them if they determine that his policies and new regulations are unconstitutional, or violate existing treaties, etc).  Bannon apparently is trying to run the show, and Bannon despises the rule of law and sees himself as the luckiest man in the world right now.   Legal challenges will have to, each and every time, come from outside government, or from states or cities.  

I know there are a lot of rumblings in Albany right now concerning fending off any craziness that the new feds in Washington attempt to impose on us up here. 

Will Trump's DOJ defend him?
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U of M Professor, Former White House Lawyer Explains Why He's Suing President Trump

January 27, 2017 07:55 PM

Lately a little-known clause in the Constitution has been making big headlines. It's called the emoluments clause, and it's just 49 words total.

The clause reads in full: "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any Present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State." ...

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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

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